>>1384>try to foster a unified community between the two boorus
There can be no unification. It will end in an assimilation. With a high emphasis on ass.
The tranny back in power who was a mod in known furry sites, diehard furfags like Luna and Celestia as admin (I dunno if The Autistic Commie is really doing something relevant), the tags things, constantly pushing Furbooru as the "best" alternative for the users, banning/locking threads about altboorus…
To me it's pretty clear the merging will be very soon.
>>1384>Some sort of grater collaboration though? I think it is quite possible that they try to do some type of integrations of functionality and try to foster a unified community between the two boorus.
They already are. I think they are hedging their bets. If Derpibooru dies due to pony slowing down then it'll merge with Furbooru. If Furbooru doesn't get off the ground then they'll merge back into Derpi by giving the site furry options. Either case, got to have the tagging system ready.
A daunting task. Could one even pull it off? /mlp/, /mlpol/, moderate users who are leery, etc, probably wouldn't unify under one "leader". I use the term loosely, as someone in the position to hit back or stop this would have to have several things including wide respect and both have influence within Derpi while also having a large enough following outside it to be able to attack from the outside and in. >>1387>constantly pushing Furbooru as the "best" alternative for the user
Have they been pushing it as an altbooru in the same vein as the others?
>>1389>Have they been pushing it as an altbooru in the same vein as the others?
Perhaps not, but I'm getting sick of see it in the banner ads.
They're giving badges to derpiusers to start uploading shit to furfagbooru and other similar activities and also the ads everywhere mostly.
On Furbooru or on Derpi?
I haven't seen it on derpi.>>1390
What we really need is several who is has passion, negotiation skills and articulation. The ability to infulence will follow. Northern Wind had the passion hands down, Dante too. Articulation I could think of several examples, might be worth too study Mits defence of art or Dolores later posts durring the crisis. For negotiation, I say you need to merge the hardball tactics of DNP pleaging with knowning were to accept a compromise. Though I don't think that you should put your faith getting any concessions from the mods but use it to make the mods look bad and gain support when the real bad stuff happens.
On paper, the Anti-censorship side did very well in preventing most of the changes. Yet the latter actions of the mods (deletion of that pic with flimsy justification), the complete shutdown of discussion and the people in power looking very questionable means that this is probably heading down the same path. Just slower >>1167
This is not a simple matter of saying Derpi is dead or thinking that one new altbooru, one person, or one new mod will fix this. This is a tug of war on the longterm. Right now we're in a lull but the ingredients are there for a blow up and we should use this time to prepare for the next clash and study the actions of all involved in the previous one.
Here is the gist of their event and the only badges I know of. >>1390
Speaking of banner ads? Who the hell is ponysocial.net and why are they running banner adds on furbooru but not Derpi? At least from what I've seen. Are they litteral whos or do they have some significance/connection to the rest of administration?
>>1395>Ponysocial>Give me your personal info>Trust me dude it's 100% safe
Yeah, right. I'm totally going to trust a staff that hates me for not bowing to their political lines and give them my personal info. What could possibly go wrong?
>>1396> I'm totally going to trust a staff that hates me for not bowing to their political lines and give them my personal info.
I have no idea if they are connected to the Derpi/Furbooru staff but I do know that this reminds me of early fandom dumbster fire social networks that would pop up from 2011 to 2014 that would usually die from retarded drama or scandal.
>4chan deletes Derpi drama thread
>Derpi is still up and running with no shitstaff overthrown
>tranny admins successfully swept everything under the rug
>new boorus are desert
Did we lost, bros?
New boorus have no reason to gain traffic right now. The battle was fought at the margins so not a lot of people are directly affected by them banning Aryanne and they jumped back on it. A lot of just don't want drama but won't freak if they move further than Nazis. What we should do is study and watch, the next time to strike is when Derpi tries to ban something inevitably or merges with Furbooru.
>>1399>What we should do is study and watch, the next time to strike
Sure, sure. More like emigrate somewhere and pat yourself on the back with>next time we'll sure get them, guys!
It's just like fucking Russian White Movement, who lost to commies due to constant bickering and autism of their leaders.
I don't consider it a defeat in the same way. Ponybooru and Ponerpics seem to be sustaining and growing slowly. The foudation will be there. It's not "will win next time!" It's striking when there is blood to be shed. When Derpi makes its next move you strike. Right now you have a time out. USE IT! Don't sit there and declear defeat in an ongoing battle!
>It's just like fucking Russian White Movement, who lost to commies due to constant bickering and autism of their leaders.
The Russian White Movement didn't even form one country while Derpi hasn't even managed to purge the first thing they set out to. There is still a battle to be fought >>1394>This is not a simple matter of saying Derpi is dead or thinking that one new altbooru, one person, or one new mod will fix this. This is a tug of war on the longterm. Right now we're in a lull but the ingredients are there for a blow up and we should use this time to prepare for the next clash and study the actions of all involved in the previous one.
So, exactly like White Movement, got it.
Oh, and while we at it, what's our Bizerta?
>>1383>the Brony fandom
why are they such fans of bronies?
How about using the other boorus instead of retarded bickering? Avoid Derpi like the plague and promote the alternatives where you can. Subtly and not with a megaphone, of course.
>>1395>Who the hell is ponysocial.net and why are they running banner adds on furbooru but not Derpi?
To me it seems it really have connection with the furfags from Derpistaff and will use that information to get the minimal dissidents Patachu'd
I don't think altboorus being formed are a lost, but if the autists from the altboorus thread instead of throwing shit at the other altbooru would colaborate to make them strong and very decent for a big userbase, it could be a great alternative to Derpibooru.
But just like I said before, they're too fucking autistic to make alliances instead of going "lol, that's another furfag booru XDXDXXD look mom ah made forced shitpost xDXDXD".
And mostly, they need to find how convince the anti-censorship start making altbooru exclusive content instead of using Derpi, but it seems the known anti-censorship artists don't care at all about it.
>>1407>they need to find how convince the anti-censorship start making altbooru exclusive content instead of using Derpi, but it seems the known anti-censorship artists don't care at all about it.
I think the problem is that we "won" and their hasn't been some grand purge but more of underhanded stuff behind the scenes. Even among them they have no reason to move with what happened on paper. The ones who did leave Derpi fully often just focused on their own platforms (Shino) or may have just left the fandom altogether.
Secondarily, you'd be surprised how many people don't know about the altbooru's existence or the full happenings. Someone who just casually expressed opposition to censorship once or twice in the forms or only partly followed may be like "Yay, we won, Arayanne ain't banned. Back to arting!"
To be fair to Shino. He is effectively boycotting Derpi while allowing his art to be uploaded on the other altboorus.https://ponybooru.org/tags/artist-colon-shinodagehttps://ponerpics.org/search?q=artist%3Ashinodage
He just hasn't been actively involved with any of them.
>>1408>Secondarily, you'd be surprised how many people don't know about the altbooru's existence or the full happenings.
I'm actually aware of that, and the users who really opposed to censorship and spreaded the truth everywhere were all banned for at least a month like my case and then got another month ban. Even they did preventive banning for users who had the forced filtered.
Others are too autistic to believe still in the derpistaff lies and other autistic derpifags who are literally talking shit about the altboorus, I'd say names but maybe the jannies here will nuke this as well.
I have seen some "neutral" people lately moving to Ponybooru, so maybe if we could advertise more the other alts as well there's a chance to attract more users, just like Derpi is doing with furfagbooru.
I dunno if that's ponerpics and bronybooru's goal though, since Twibooru don't care about having a community.
>>1411>truth everywhere were all banned for at least a month like my case and then got another month ban
Are you Derwol?
>>1411>Others are too autistic to believe still in the derpistaff lies and other autistic derpifags who are literally talking shit about the altboorus, I'd say names but maybe the jannies here will nuke this as well.
I'd say it maybe okay to discuss it if we focused on the contexts of the shit talking itself and not "X users is a pathetic cuck loser!" I'd be good to understand what is being said.
I don't know about merging of content, but it's interesting to see how many of the staff(including TSP)/former staff(including Joey) that have gone silent on derpibooru seem rather active on furbooru.
Even talking about how nice it is not to be called a nazi. No self awareness, of course, as they've implemented the ideological purity rules on there that they wanted on derpibooru.
On the other hand, maybe that's one way of eventually getting TSP to let go of his iron grip. If he trusts them, lets go, and allows derpibooru to be merged into furbooru…
Still, merging the two would suck. Might be better than burning derpibooru to the ground (something TSP has threatened to do), but still.
Well now you get to see MyLittleTies adverts. You know, the guys that were selling dilweed's dogtags.
Yeah, tsp is actively posting on furbooru some. Didn't know he was complaining of being called a Nazi though I know he tried to vent on Twitter and got flack there from like 5 people
It really is something to keep in mind that we are dealing with 3 not 2 factions here. Anti Censorship, Twitter/Manebooru, and the staff's personal hugbox and allies. Twitter is mostly gone so it's mainly the staff now.
Ah, found it. It was furbooru Luna (AKA derpibooru Princess Celestia, AKA meow) complaining about being called a nazi:https://furbooru.org/forums/meta/topics/avoiding-going-the-way-of-the-derpi?post_id=2796#post_2796
Oh man… The lack of awareness in his posts… And this is funny too:https://furbooru.org/forums/meta/topics/avoiding-going-the-way-of-the-derpi?post_id=1257#post_1257
Which is doubly hilarious, as they've got an active thread about banning some human on feral because of… drumroll… Twitter outrage!
They still haven't figured it out…
Is that shit still a thing? >>1415>Still, merging the two would suck. Might be better than burning derpibooru to the ground (something TSP has threatened to do), but still.
I disagree, honestly. I rather to see Derpi disappear than merging with the furfags.
>>1418>Our policies are different, and the head administration consists of completely different people.
Most of the staff are the same with different names.>What happened on Derpibooru was an unfortunate accident and was caused by a string of bad decisions on the head staff part>There is no chance this will repeat itself here.
The thread is locked.
I don't even know what to say.
They really learnt nothing for four months.
Not to defend those faggy dogtags, but to be fair to MLT I don't believe that he's actually hardcore on the BLShit like what dilateus and co are. He wants to do good in the world, and unfortunately for him dilfag got him caught up in the BLM shitshow by convincing MLT that doing BLM-related donations for dogtags is doing good.
Basically it seems that MLT only did the dogtags because dilfag and co coerced him into doing them. MLT probably didn't know any better about the BLM aspect.
>>1415>Still, merging the two would suck. Might be better than burning derpibooru to the ground (something TSP has threatened to do), but still.
It depends on how you view furfags. /mlp/ is convinced that they want to subvert and destroy the fandom out of jealousy/hatred for anything beyond their control. I have never seen furfags act so obliviously in such a scheming manner and sometimes seen an opposite attitude of "The fandom sucks is and not us!" But I can tell you that a merger with furbooru does threaten cultural identity if it does become a furry hub. To say that our fandom doesn't have some furry ties is retarded but we quickly ended up segregated when our autism clashed and pissed off everyone under the sun, including furries. Thus we made our own sites and communities and separate cultural dynamics followed. The Twitter Discord continuum of furries of today has a very low tolerance of stuff that is still very common in our fandom (slurs, aggressive shitpostry tone, etc). Say what you want about Derpi but for as much as /mlp/ portrayed it as a hugbox of SJW over the years it (true in the case of the mods) but it also was an environment where AJ's plantation had over 1000 upvotes. Derpibooru's culture, fandom culture, is vastly out of step with that moral code and I can only see their being fighting and our stuff being slowly stamped out. >>1419>I rather to see Derpi disappear than merging with the furfags.
Which is why, as much as I don't want to wish anyone ill will, have to agree with this.
This thread is actually really interesting as it has a lot of the players from core drama in this and TSP was openly talking here. Does some of the stuff make a merge a hard sell though? Considering special emphasis was placed on furbooru not being run by the same people.>>1421
You're not the first to say that MLT isn't crazy though I know nothing on him. To be frank, I don't consider being for BLM to be morally wrong or the sale of dogtags to be wrong in the same way I don't consider a mangapede to be. If you get actively involved in a cause some of your money is going to be used for bad things and you are going to be blind to your side's faults. What I do consider wrong is actions on a personal front. Supporting BLM and turning a blind eye is one thing, supporting the violence wholeheartedly is a moral folly. I think Delirious
in his passion did do stuff that is morally questionable but I'm not sure I could raise it to the tier of "everyone around him is utter trash if they support him"
Not a bad post to double post. It has important context. It's TSP actually giving reasoning for his actions with a bit more detail and coherence. It's a horrible reasoning, yes, but he is at least giving it as opposed to shitposting all over the place and then disapearing from the site itself.
One question, is he refering to Von Luna/Princess Celestia or Nebbie here?
Random post in one of the old more minor drama threads. Not the most interesting. I imagine the mods may even let it slide if no one replies.>>1422
I agree with this.
>>1422>/mlp/ is convinced that they want to subvert and destroy the fandom out of jealousy/hatred for anything beyond their control.
It's not about want to. It's that they will, knowingly or unknowingly. Furry culture is completely different from pony culture. Furries try to bring everyone in, good or bad to stay relevant and even gives them a platform to stand on. This is why they're a cesspit of hedonism, pedophilia, and aids. They've ruined other fandoms already, namely Lion King and Sonic. And they're working through pokemon, pony, egyptian gods, and anything to do with tabletop roleplaying settings.
The /mlp/ fandom planted it's roots on 2010 4chan though and that's an attitude that will stick around for as long as the fandom is around. If you're acting like a faggot, chances are people will actually call you out for it and tell you to fuck off. This is what will make things like the mass downvoting of BLM/mouthpiece shit, and the upvote of the plantation always possible.
The problem here is that they started hammering down those that upvote and downvote certain things and were always openly biased against "channers." Several people got banned for using the downvote button, and that's fucking retarded.
>>1427>Several people got banned for using the downvote button, and that's fucking retarded.
It is so stupid how they introduced that behind the scenes like it's no big deal. Shadow filter is a sort step away from shadow banning.
They already admitted to shadow banning, namely Joey admitted they were doing it. Not to mention the whole "discouraging" thing. The moderators are fucking shit. Thank god I got my dnp in sooner rather than later.
I got a one month ban for downvoting a tranny flag shit pic.
While the people brigarding the Aryanne art-pack Ciaran said he just "talked to them to not do it anymore" You know, the "not biased mods".>>1429
There's even a list of the users who had the forced filter, a lot of them, including me, didn't even did something about BLM shit, it was because they were "undesirables" users according to those fags.
>>1430>I got a one month ban for downvoting a tranny flag shit pic.
A single pic?!
>There's even a list of the users who had the forced filter, a lot of them
I have seen the list mentioned but never have seen it.
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Thatis so unfortunately true.